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		<title>By: rage</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslilly.com/2009/06/why-im-a-bratty-sub-soul-searching/comment-page-1/#comment-6677</link>
		<dc:creator>rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to say that I am mostly dominant to Temper.  I like to be in control much of the time.  However, there are few times where I will allow him control and dominance.  This happens seldom so I am not sure if that qualifies us officially as switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that I am mostly dominant to Temper.  I like to be in control much of the time.  However, there are few times where I will allow him control and dominance.  This happens seldom so I am not sure if that qualifies us officially as switch.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Sexy Curvy</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslilly.com/2009/06/why-im-a-bratty-sub-soul-searching/comment-page-1/#comment-6667</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Sexy Curvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so very sorry that I haven&#039;t replied to this as of yet.  

I too wrestle with submission although I know I am submissive and have the submissive personality.  There are some things that I react to in a submissive manner and others I absolutely DO NOT.

There are different levels of submission.  

I will think on this more - do some research and get back to you.

I did love my gift btw.  Thank you R ... 
but R play nicely ... we subs give because we want to make you dom&#039;s happy happy happy ... when you are not happy happy happy - it hurts our heart and our brain.

I agree full heartedly with Maitress.  

I think if you and R were closer and he was able to gently spank your ass for not doing things exactly the way he intended that would be better than the &#039;word spanking&#039; for the physical is a reminder to do what you are told and also provides so much pleasure in the pain (easier to remember - so much easier).

I hope that helps babydoll ... for you are so damn sexy and sweet and I missed talking with you these last few days ... I&#039;m trying to wrap my brain around all that is happening to me ... I feel change and it frightens me ... i don&#039;t know how to make it all fit; my brain is all scattered and I&#039;m quite possibly a wreck and I can&#039;t think of anything but being with him again ... while my ass heals - damn it was black and blue ... 

SO I have neglected you my darling and I am sorry!

I am trying to work my way back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so very sorry that I haven&#8217;t replied to this as of yet.  </p>
<p>I too wrestle with submission although I know I am submissive and have the submissive personality.  There are some things that I react to in a submissive manner and others I absolutely DO NOT.</p>
<p>There are different levels of submission.  </p>
<p>I will think on this more &#8211; do some research and get back to you.</p>
<p>I did love my gift btw.  Thank you R &#8230;<br />
but R play nicely &#8230; we subs give because we want to make you dom&#8217;s happy happy happy &#8230; when you are not happy happy happy &#8211; it hurts our heart and our brain.</p>
<p>I agree full heartedly with Maitress.  </p>
<p>I think if you and R were closer and he was able to gently spank your ass for not doing things exactly the way he intended that would be better than the &#8216;word spanking&#8217; for the physical is a reminder to do what you are told and also provides so much pleasure in the pain (easier to remember &#8211; so much easier).</p>
<p>I hope that helps babydoll &#8230; for you are so damn sexy and sweet and I missed talking with you these last few days &#8230; I&#8217;m trying to wrap my brain around all that is happening to me &#8230; I feel change and it frightens me &#8230; i don&#8217;t know how to make it all fit; my brain is all scattered and I&#8217;m quite possibly a wreck and I can&#8217;t think of anything but being with him again &#8230; while my ass heals &#8211; damn it was black and blue &#8230; </p>
<p>SO I have neglected you my darling and I am sorry!</p>
<p>I am trying to work my way back.</p>
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		<title>By: anonyslut</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslilly.com/2009/06/why-im-a-bratty-sub-soul-searching/comment-page-1/#comment-6616</link>
		<dc:creator>anonyslut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, submitting means to give, while obeying means to do as i&#039;m told.  When i submit, i give my will to my Mistress, which means that She does what She pleases with me.  When i obey, i do as She tells me.

When i submit to Mistress&#039; desire, my will to object has been given away.  If She wants to flog me, my need to not allow harm to be done to me is given to Mistress.  Therefore, She is my protector, &amp; She looks after my well-being.  This is where i agree with Nadia West.

When i obey Mistress, i do as She tells me.  In the same example above, if Mistress wants to flog me, &amp; She tells me to lie down &amp; stay still, i do as i&#039;m told.

Submission is also a gift.  It should be treated with respect.  If not, you&#039;re not submitting, you&#039;re being bullyed.

Finally, i do not think that being submissive means that i am a doormat.  i feel it means quite the opposite.  i submit my will to my Mistress, because i trust Her, whether it is by Her hand or another.  But, that does not mean that ANY Dominant person can expect me to submit to them.  In fact, i&#039;m more likely to answer them with; &quot;Piss or, shit-for-brains.&quot;

Now, i shall go &amp; read the rest of your blog.


anonyslut
Maitresse&#039;s darling slut

&lt;em&gt;~ Thanks for chiming in. All the insight is helping. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, submitting means to give, while obeying means to do as i&#8217;m told.  When i submit, i give my will to my Mistress, which means that She does what She pleases with me.  When i obey, i do as She tells me.</p>
<p>When i submit to Mistress&#8217; desire, my will to object has been given away.  If She wants to flog me, my need to not allow harm to be done to me is given to Mistress.  Therefore, She is my protector, &#038; She looks after my well-being.  This is where i agree with Nadia West.</p>
<p>When i obey Mistress, i do as She tells me.  In the same example above, if Mistress wants to flog me, &#038; She tells me to lie down &#038; stay still, i do as i&#8217;m told.</p>
<p>Submission is also a gift.  It should be treated with respect.  If not, you&#8217;re not submitting, you&#8217;re being bullyed.</p>
<p>Finally, i do not think that being submissive means that i am a doormat.  i feel it means quite the opposite.  i submit my will to my Mistress, because i trust Her, whether it is by Her hand or another.  But, that does not mean that ANY Dominant person can expect me to submit to them.  In fact, i&#8217;m more likely to answer them with; &#8220;Piss or, shit-for-brains.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, i shall go &#038; read the rest of your blog.</p>
<p>anonyslut<br />
Maitresse&#8217;s darling slut</p>
<p><em>~ Thanks for chiming in. All the insight is helping. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Nadia West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadia West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The struggle between being submissive (or obedient) and being stubborn/independent is part of the journey. Some days I just don&#039;t feel like being told what to do. But other days I totally let go and submit and it&#039;s divine. By submitting to him I find a part of me fulfilled that was never fulfilled before. But do I have off days? Days when I misbehave? Hell yes. I think any decent Dom will realize that their sub is human, and can&#039;t be perfect all the time. Doesn&#039;t mean you won&#039;t get scolded, but a light scolding doesn&#039;t mean a life-long grudge for a misstep.

One of the things I like about submission is that he takes on the responsibility of taking care of me. It&#039;s not that I can&#039;t (or don&#039;t) take care of myself, but there&#039;s a comfort in knowing that while he asks a lot of me, he gives me a great deal as well.

&lt;em&gt;~ Yes I can certainly say that R does a lot for me in the &quot;non D/s&quot; sense, thats for sure. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The struggle between being submissive (or obedient) and being stubborn/independent is part of the journey. Some days I just don&#8217;t feel like being told what to do. But other days I totally let go and submit and it&#8217;s divine. By submitting to him I find a part of me fulfilled that was never fulfilled before. But do I have off days? Days when I misbehave? Hell yes. I think any decent Dom will realize that their sub is human, and can&#8217;t be perfect all the time. Doesn&#8217;t mean you won&#8217;t get scolded, but a light scolding doesn&#8217;t mean a life-long grudge for a misstep.</p>
<p>One of the things I like about submission is that he takes on the responsibility of taking care of me. It&#8217;s not that I can&#8217;t (or don&#8217;t) take care of myself, but there&#8217;s a comfort in knowing that while he asks a lot of me, he gives me a great deal as well.</p>
<p><em>~ Yes I can certainly say that R does a lot for me in the &#8220;non D/s&#8221; sense, thats for sure. </em></p>
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		<title>By: vskwitness</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslilly.com/2009/06/why-im-a-bratty-sub-soul-searching/comment-page-1/#comment-6606</link>
		<dc:creator>vskwitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder about the idea that seems hidden in your post that there&#039;s a right way and a less than right way to submit.  I&#039;ve yet to find any human behaviour that isn&#039;t on a continuum of some point, not to mention a learning curve.  I&#039;m not exactly a &quot;natural&quot; (whatever the fuck that means) dom but I can do it and get into it. But I refuse to believe that I have to do it, or do it a certain way because the last thing I need is another freaking norm to aspire to. As far as the submissive part of you, I can&#039;t help but think its a part of your personality, as affected by the moon and tides of your day to day life as everything else you do.  My question for you is: the naming of your relationship D/s, is that more the turnon or is playing the part the turn-on? 

Well, I don&#039;t mean to be diffictlt but the more I think about things, the more I think nobody &quot;knows&quot; anything.  We can only get closer or farther away from being OK with ourselves.  And you sound pretty OK with yourself. I like what Rori said: the dom should help you succeed. If they don&#039;t, they aren&#039;t doing their part.  Communication always ends up being the crux of things. 

Great blog, great post.

&lt;em&gt;~ I didn&#039;t say the relationship was D/s. It has its moments but 75% we are not in that side of it. I don&#039;t get turned on by labels. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about the idea that seems hidden in your post that there&#8217;s a right way and a less than right way to submit.  I&#8217;ve yet to find any human behaviour that isn&#8217;t on a continuum of some point, not to mention a learning curve.  I&#8217;m not exactly a &#8220;natural&#8221; (whatever the fuck that means) dom but I can do it and get into it. But I refuse to believe that I have to do it, or do it a certain way because the last thing I need is another freaking norm to aspire to. As far as the submissive part of you, I can&#8217;t help but think its a part of your personality, as affected by the moon and tides of your day to day life as everything else you do.  My question for you is: the naming of your relationship D/s, is that more the turnon or is playing the part the turn-on? </p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t mean to be diffictlt but the more I think about things, the more I think nobody &#8220;knows&#8221; anything.  We can only get closer or farther away from being OK with ourselves.  And you sound pretty OK with yourself. I like what Rori said: the dom should help you succeed. If they don&#8217;t, they aren&#8217;t doing their part.  Communication always ends up being the crux of things. </p>
<p>Great blog, great post.</p>
<p><em>~ I didn&#8217;t say the relationship was D/s. It has its moments but 75% we are not in that side of it. I don&#8217;t get turned on by labels. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Rori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a sub out there who doesn&#039;t stomp her (or his) feet, narrow her eyes, and get upset about being asked to do something. That doesn&#039;t meant that there&#039;s something wrong with you as a sub. And really, times like those are defining in a relationship. If you don&#039;t have personal limits, they can&#039;t be pushed at all...and then you do become somewhat of a doormat. Some doms may want that, but I&#039;ve found that most don&#039;t. 

Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t give yourself to your dom completely. In my mind, giving myself over completely doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that I&#039;ll never be bratty about something. Then again, I identify more with the Daddy/babygirl dynamic than the Master/slave dynamic. 

I guess, I&#039;m just saying that there&#039;s nothing &quot;wrong&quot; with you. No decent dom would expect you to be able to fully submit right away as you start a D/s relationship. It cheapens it, kinda like saying I love you after only dating for a week. I do definitely think that you should talk to R about things, though. 

One thing that&#039;s really important, I&#039;ve found, is that if you&#039;ve done something to feel like you&#039;ve failed completely, your dom should help you succeed next time. Take your failures as a learning experience, something that can help you bind together and know one another on a deeper level. Also, D once told me that my failures are his as well, so when you feel bad or disappointed in yourself, R probably feels bad and disappointed in himself as well. And next time you&#039;ll both try harder. With that in mind, you can grow to give him more and more of yourself. It doesn&#039;t need to be immediately and all at once. 

Sorry that was so ramble-y!

&lt;em&gt;~ No, ramble and lengthy is just fine by me :) Thank you for commenting, it&#039;s giving me points to ponder. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a sub out there who doesn&#8217;t stomp her (or his) feet, narrow her eyes, and get upset about being asked to do something. That doesn&#8217;t meant that there&#8217;s something wrong with you as a sub. And really, times like those are defining in a relationship. If you don&#8217;t have personal limits, they can&#8217;t be pushed at all&#8230;and then you do become somewhat of a doormat. Some doms may want that, but I&#8217;ve found that most don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t give yourself to your dom completely. In my mind, giving myself over completely doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that I&#8217;ll never be bratty about something. Then again, I identify more with the Daddy/babygirl dynamic than the Master/slave dynamic. </p>
<p>I guess, I&#8217;m just saying that there&#8217;s nothing &#8220;wrong&#8221; with you. No decent dom would expect you to be able to fully submit right away as you start a D/s relationship. It cheapens it, kinda like saying I love you after only dating for a week. I do definitely think that you should talk to R about things, though. </p>
<p>One thing that&#8217;s really important, I&#8217;ve found, is that if you&#8217;ve done something to feel like you&#8217;ve failed completely, your dom should help you succeed next time. Take your failures as a learning experience, something that can help you bind together and know one another on a deeper level. Also, D once told me that my failures are his as well, so when you feel bad or disappointed in yourself, R probably feels bad and disappointed in himself as well. And next time you&#8217;ll both try harder. With that in mind, you can grow to give him more and more of yourself. It doesn&#8217;t need to be immediately and all at once. </p>
<p>Sorry that was so ramble-y!</p>
<p><em>~ No, ramble and lengthy is just fine by me :) Thank you for commenting, it&#8217;s giving me points to ponder. </em></p>
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		<title>By: vanimp</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear of the unknown.... or fear of giving up control? Have you considered working with R to push past this self imposed barrier? Just a thought hun ... perhaps some form of catharsis play to figure out whats really at the crux of it. Either way it takes time to figure it all out, don&#039;t be hard on yourself in the process. *hugs*

&lt;em&gt;~ Yeah, I&#039;m trying. thank you. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear of the unknown&#8230;. or fear of giving up control? Have you considered working with R to push past this self imposed barrier? Just a thought hun &#8230; perhaps some form of catharsis play to figure out whats really at the crux of it. Either way it takes time to figure it all out, don&#8217;t be hard on yourself in the process. *hugs*</p>
<p><em>~ Yeah, I&#8217;m trying. thank you. </em></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fear of the unknown is certainly understandable. Have you talked with R about having a night where you can fully let go to see how it runs? Would you even want to try that? The only way I know of to squash that fear is to try it and see. Who knows? Maybe you&#039;ll enjoy it more than you expected, or maybe you won&#039;t. It would be a learning experience one way or the other and you could say after wards that you&#039;ve dealt with said fear.

&lt;em&gt;~ No....it&#039;s not possible...but also this is just mental and something to be worked out in my head. Getting rid of the jaw-clenching reaction and associating with old/bad obedience reactions. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fear of the unknown is certainly understandable. Have you talked with R about having a night where you can fully let go to see how it runs? Would you even want to try that? The only way I know of to squash that fear is to try it and see. Who knows? Maybe you&#8217;ll enjoy it more than you expected, or maybe you won&#8217;t. It would be a learning experience one way or the other and you could say after wards that you&#8217;ve dealt with said fear.</p>
<p><em>~ No&#8230;.it&#8217;s not possible&#8230;but also this is just mental and something to be worked out in my head. Getting rid of the jaw-clenching reaction and associating with old/bad obedience reactions. </em></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m not sure what it stems from, but I tend to do things to make others happy. Make them like me? And sometimes I think that I rationalize “If I do this for him, he’ll like me more.”. I know, I know, it’s 876 kinds of fucked up.&quot;

Are you doing things for others just to make them like you or do you do it in part because it makes you feel good? Also how do these people perceive the things you do for them? I&#039;m guessing that they see it as a you showing that you value them and you&#039;re willing to go out of your way to help them or be good to them. Me for example, I do things for the gf to make her happy because making her smile or cheering her up makes me feel good.

&quot;I still hold myself taut when submitting. I cannot fully let go.&quot;

Why do you not fully let go? Is there a part of you that doesn&#039;t want to give over full control or is there a corner of your mind that loves the idea of rebelling even just a little? With the gf she loves to be a bit of a rebel because she knows that if I&#039;m in the right mindset she&#039;ll get more of a punishment which she enjoys. Is it that way with you or is it something else? Just trying to get the mental gears going for you with the questions :)

&lt;em&gt;~ When I say that I do things and I realized that I subconsciously was thinking &quot;If I do this, he&#039;ll like me more&quot; it&#039;s more of....things I&#039;m being asked/told to do. Not things I come up with on my own, really.  Which I do come up with things on my own, but thats a slightly different color of horse. 
I cannot fully let go because I have a teeny bit of uncertainty. Fear of the unknown. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not sure what it stems from, but I tend to do things to make others happy. Make them like me? And sometimes I think that I rationalize “If I do this for him, he’ll like me more.”. I know, I know, it’s 876 kinds of fucked up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you doing things for others just to make them like you or do you do it in part because it makes you feel good? Also how do these people perceive the things you do for them? I&#8217;m guessing that they see it as a you showing that you value them and you&#8217;re willing to go out of your way to help them or be good to them. Me for example, I do things for the gf to make her happy because making her smile or cheering her up makes me feel good.</p>
<p>&#8220;I still hold myself taut when submitting. I cannot fully let go.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do you not fully let go? Is there a part of you that doesn&#8217;t want to give over full control or is there a corner of your mind that loves the idea of rebelling even just a little? With the gf she loves to be a bit of a rebel because she knows that if I&#8217;m in the right mindset she&#8217;ll get more of a punishment which she enjoys. Is it that way with you or is it something else? Just trying to get the mental gears going for you with the questions :)</p>
<p><em>~ When I say that I do things and I realized that I subconsciously was thinking &#8220;If I do this, he&#8217;ll like me more&#8221; it&#8217;s more of&#8230;.things I&#8217;m being asked/told to do. Not things I come up with on my own, really.  Which I do come up with things on my own, but thats a slightly different color of horse.<br />
I cannot fully let go because I have a teeny bit of uncertainty. Fear of the unknown. </em></p>
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		<title>By: blueyeguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blueyeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And btw, just because you are not completely happy w/ current situation and searching for what you want does not make you a brat, bitch or anything like that.

Peace - life is a journey of exploration!

:)

Blue

&lt;em&gt;~ It&#039;s not the current situation I&#039;m unhappy with. It&#039;s my own viewpoints and mental standing that I&#039;m trying to work out.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And btw, just because you are not completely happy w/ current situation and searching for what you want does not make you a brat, bitch or anything like that.</p>
<p>Peace &#8211; life is a journey of exploration!</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>Blue</p>
<p><em>~ It&#8217;s not the current situation I&#8217;m unhappy with. It&#8217;s my own viewpoints and mental standing that I&#8217;m trying to work out.</em></p>
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